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What Motor are you thinking about putting in your F9?
Just thought this would be fun to see what people are thinking about stuffing in this beast. The car looks so exotic to me I am not sure I would want a mass manufactured engine in there. I'm thinking the 5.2 Aluminator, C8 corvette donor motor or GT500 motor. Let's hear your thoughts
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If a V12 LS style engine fits then I'd be thinking of a large displacement BBC making lot's of pump gas friendly power without all the typical power adder components that make packaging a challenge and add additional weight and complexity. https://www.shafiroff.com/chevy-pump...isted-sr20.php
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Just to be different, 427 SOHC, side oiler, dual 4 barrels.
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22cc single cylinder hit and miss diesel(or peanut oil) water pump engine from 1922.....gonna set a land speed record I am !...da Bat WHAT ! I'm removing the governor !
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j.miller
22cc single cylinder hit and miss diesel(or peanut oil) water pump engine from 1922.....gonna set a land speed record I am !...da Bat WHAT ! I'm removing the governor !
When you are done removing your governor, you are welcome to come to Colorado and remove our governor.
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Please come to Pennsylvania after you’re done.
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Derald Rice
When you are done removing your governor, you are welcome to come to Colorado and remove our governor.
Then head further down the road to Michigan and remove ours too please.
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now available as a Crate engine. Godzilla v8 from Ford. Cheap too!
https://www.thedrive.com/news/34491/...a-crate-engine
part number M-6007-73, available for a cool $8,150
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KenWilkinson
And larger and less powerful than a GM 6.2 liter...
https://www.chevrolet.com/performanc...s/ls/ls376-525
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Originally Posted by
KenWilkinson
On sale, $7000.00
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well, not buying it, but Surprised no one has mentioned a Jag V12 or BMW V12.
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KenWilkinson
well, not buying it, but Surprised no one has mentioned a Jag V12 or BMW V12.
Jag V12 is going to be a heavy lump in there but i really like the idea of a V12 in this car and at least 6.0L Mercedes also do a good V12 engine. I'm also looking at AWD options from the Nissan GTR but thats going to be a lot of chassis rework to fit it in.
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Viper v10. Available, but not necessarity cheap. grind the viper name off of the valve covers so that the viper name was gone.
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If Factory Five decides to build it I will sell my serial number 002 25th Anniversary Edition too buy it that car looks freaking awesome.
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Well an LS of course.
Just kidding
Aluminator
Last edited by Garage Guy; 04-11-2020 at 08:12 PM.
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The Mercedes bi-turbo V12 might also be an interesting option.
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No plans but still you asked.
LS7 @ about 600hp NA & T56
Mast Motorsports would be a good place to start.
Jim - easily converted to the "dark side"
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I am thinking more along the lines of a V10. One thing I do know is that I DO NOT want it to sound like a muscle car. To me, this car is an exotic and should have the proper song. I may see if I can wiggle one of Borla's polyphonic exhausts into the mix.
Last edited by narkosys; 04-11-2020 at 10:43 PM.
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narkosys
I am thinking more along the lines of a V10. One thing I do know is that I DO NOT want it to sound like a muscle car. To me, this car is an exotic and should have the proper song. I may see if I can wiggle one of Borla's polyphonic exhausts into the mix.
My thoughts exactly. This is not a muscle car. it should not sound like one. As much as I love muscle car sounds (Ford Coyotes sing a heavenly song) it would just be awkward in this build. It would be the car version of a giant muscular man with a squeaky, high voice.
That being said, part of why I'm here is to look for ideas and a starting place to figure this out for myself.
It looks like we might have a year or two before we can pull the trigger, so I'm trying to plan and prepare as much as I can.
The Audi Ideas I've seen are nice. I'm kind of partial to Ferrari or Lambo v10, it's just up to finding a good one for a decent price relative to what it is that's also reliable enough to not need a rebuild.
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Steve >> aka: GoDadGo
I'm thinking of the..Kaase Boss Nine..would be a great powerplant for the F-9.
https://jonkaaseracingengines.com/sh...lit-boss-nine/
The F-9 will be expensive, unique and an all aluminum Kaase would look cool, be cool & really scoot this car in style.
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Aluminator, no question.
No real interest in the F9, but if they ever made a Carbon Fiber bodied Dayton Coupe, I'd sell my Cobra and put my deposit down on the first day.
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First off this is an absolutely crazy idea, however, we have been tinkering with an idea for a couple of years now and I think we are going to start on if pretty soon. As many of you may know, we are pretty dedicated to the Coyote platform. Our Coupe makes a bit over 800hp (700+ whp) and is pretty much bulletproof. Anyway, staying with the Coyote theme we are seriously considering building a Coyote derived V-12 7.8 liter monster. Should be 700-725 hp NA.
We are pretty big in 3D printing and will be partnering with a local company to 3D print the block mold (3D printed sand) and our parent company works with a couple of aluminum foundries that can pore it for us. The block and heads will fit on our 5-axis mill so we should be able to finish them in house. We'll go outside to have the crank and cams manufactured, other internals will be stock Coyote except for some of the accessories such as water and oil pumps. As this will be a 60 degree V these likely won't package.
Hope to post some images as we make progress. This assumes we are able to work in close proximity to others sometime in the not to distant future. In the mean time everyone stay safe and keep your distance.
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ooow, 60 degree. Right on!
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Yep, 60 degrees, otherwise the crank would have 12 rod journals instead of 6. This would have made it difficult to maintain the same cylinder spacing. Anyway, we are excited about the prospects. It is just difficult for me to work on the design from home. I'm in the old fart high risk category for Covid-19 and so I try only to go into the shop when no one else is around. Hopefully, the world will settle down soon so I can really get back to work.
Chris
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Originally Posted by
Chris @ Forma
First off this is an absolutely crazy idea, however, we have been tinkering with an idea for a couple of years now and I think we are going to start on if pretty soon. As many of you may know, we are pretty dedicated to the Coyote platform. Our Coupe makes a bit over 800hp (700+ whp) and is pretty much bulletproof. Anyway, staying with the Coyote theme we are seriously considering building a Coyote derived V-12 7.8 liter monster. Should be 700-725 hp NA.
We are pretty big in 3D printing and will be partnering with a local company to 3D print the block mold (3D printed sand) and our parent company works with a couple of aluminum foundries that can pore it for us. The block and heads will fit on our 5-axis mill so we should be able to finish them in house. We'll go outside to have the crank and cams manufactured, other internals will be stock Coyote except for some of the accessories such as water and oil pumps. As this will be a 60 degree V these likely won't package.
Hope to post some images as we make progress. This assumes we are able to work in close proximity to others sometime in the not to distant future. In the mean time everyone stay safe and keep your distance.
[email protected]
I really hope you can get that v12 working as that would be very enticing.
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This may have been covered, but what engine was it designed around?
I'd love it with a big LS7 or even an LS3.
But the thought of a flat-plane crank engine and the European sound.... mmmm
tough call. Oh wait, I'm poor and can only dream anyway. Ferrari V12!
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Originally Posted by
Taz Rules
This may have been covered, but what engine was it designed around?
Designed from the new coupe chassis so anything the coupe can use this should be able to use.
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Not a Viper V-10, those sound like turds. not a V8 and not a V12.
I like the GT350 Voodoo!
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MPTech
Not a Viper V-10, those sound like turds. not a V8 and not a V12.
I like the GT350 Voodoo!
I agree! I think that would be my choice.
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I really have the bug to build a Coyote, with good parts, Holley ecu and a procharger. It would easily make over 800 HP with conservative boost That would work really nice in the F9. Holley also makes a really cool digital dash that might be just the ticket. If I have another car in me this might just be the one. It really depends on the price point.
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Bobl,
We are building a Coupe right now and were originally planning on a ProCharger on a Coyote. When we were purchasing all the pieces parts, ProCharger didn't yet have a solution for the Coyote. We looked at constructing our own mounting hardware, belt tensioners, etc. but we couldn't come up with a solution that didn't preclude an A/C compressor. Ultimately we ended up with a Holley Super Charger.
Chris@Forma
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I'm going one of two routes at this time:
Coyote or Electric.
Final decision is FAR from complete!
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I am surprised no one has picked that Australian V12 they had in it at the show. Apparently you can tune/ upgrade it to 1500HP.
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GM LS9 6.2L or the Hellaphant...
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Steve >> aka: GoDadGo
How About A 572 BBC Tall Deck?
https://www.jegs.com/i/Chevrolet+Per...RoCpa8QAvD_BwE
They only make 720 Horsepower.
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A car that light without ABS and Traction Control at a minimum will not get around a track as quick as a Z06 or something in that range of production car, on the street all it will take is one mistaken application of power and you will be without a car or worse in the hospital. After driving my Coyote HR33 with a slippery converter for a couple of years I'm a lot wiser about power to weight ratios. If the engine you choose has wild camshafts with no valve timing controls it will be a miserable experience, trust me.